{"id":10741,"date":"2022-05-20T15:33:31","date_gmt":"2022-05-20T06:33:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/news.osipp.osaka-u.ac.jp\/?p=10741"},"modified":"2022-05-23T11:22:52","modified_gmt":"2022-05-23T02:22:52","slug":"osipp%e7%95%99%e5%ad%a6%e7%94%9f%e5%af%be%e8%ab%87-vol-%ef%bc%92-%e5%8d%9a%e5%a3%ab%e5%be%8c%e6%9c%9f%e8%aa%b2%e7%a8%8b%ef%bc%88%e5%8d%9a%e5%a3%ab%e8%aa%b2%e7%a8%8b%ef%bc%89","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/news.osipp.osaka-u.ac.jp\/?p=10741","title":{"rendered":"OSIPP\u7559\u5b66\u751f\u5bfe\u8ac7 vol.2 \u535a\u58eb\u5f8c\u671f\u8ab2\u7a0b\uff08\u535a\u58eb\u8ab2\u7a0b\uff09"},"content":{"rendered":"

(\u65e5\u672c\u8a9e\u306f\u5f8c\u8ff0)<\/p>\n

I interviewed Gideon Ponio from the Philippines and Moris Deri from Malaysia in the form of a conversation. They are both in their first year of a doctoral course. Moris is in Professor Toshiya Hoshino’s laboratory, and Gideon is in Professor Nobuo Akai’s laboratory.<\/p>\n

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Can you please describe your career\/academic and\/or professional experience before coming to OSIPP?<\/strong><\/p>\n

(Gideon)<\/span> I graduated with a bachelor\u2019s degree in Business Management in Philippines, worked for 3 years in the private sector before going to the US for masters. Then graduated from masters with a degree in Urban Planning and worked for local government in the US. After that I returned to the Philippines and worked for the national government for 3 years. Concurrently, I taught in my original university for one semester. I began my doctoral research in Belgium where I also obtained another master\u2019s degree in Maritime Transportation Management. From Belgium I moved here to Japan and entered OSIPP to continue my PhD research.<\/p>\n

(Moris)<\/span> I graduated with a bachelor\u2019s degree and then worked as an analyst for a foreign bank in Malaysia before joining OSIPP. I have also some experience in startups, nonprofits, and political organizations.<\/p>\n

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In your countries, do most people go to grad-school after some working experience\uff1f<\/strong><\/p>\n

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Gideon Ponio\u3055\u3093<\/p><\/div>\n

(Gideon) <\/span>Actually, in my generation, pursuing a master\u2019s degree is not very common. However, now, I think the master\u2019s degree is turning to what bachelor\u2019s degree used to be for work.<\/p>\n

(Moris) <\/span>That is similar in Malaysia. A master\u2019s degree is nothing special. The government has encouraged us to get a PhD. Currently, we already have a surplus of PhD holders who have no jobs or their jobs are not related to their PhD or their professional executive experience.<\/p>\n

(Gideon) <\/span>I have studied in universities in the US, Europe and Japan and I noticed that it is common to go straight from your bachelor\u2019s degree to master\u2019s. On the other hand, in Philippines, usually they work first after graduating with a bachelor\u2019s degree. After working for a while they feel the need for graduate studies, for obtaining another degree might help in their career objectives<\/p>\n

(Moris) <\/span>In Malaysia, most people except whose goal is to become academics usually work first because they have to pay back student loans and gain experience. Currently, it is becoming very common for people, who did not plan to go to the higher education, to get tired or board of working then go back to University to study.<\/p>\n

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Can you tell me what brought you to Japan and why you choose OSIPP?<\/strong><\/p>\n

(Gideon)<\/span> My former colleagues in the Philippine Ministry of Transportation, as well as members of JICA that I have worked with, advised me to apply for the MEXT scholarship if ever I decided to study again. Growing up with anime, video games, and having enjoyed a vacation in Japan previously, also made me consider living in Japan. The reason I chose OSIPP among other Japanese Universities is because of its academic expertise in International public policy.<\/p>\n

(Moris) <\/span>My best friend in the US university is a Japanese and he recommended me to come to Japan so I was thinking of studying in Japan. And later, I got the MEXT scholarship and finally got the opportunity to come to Japan. I looked for a university which has a proper environment for majoring in public policy, in English in Kansai-region where the friend lived and I found OSIPP.<\/p>\n

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Can you please describe your academic life; the courses you are taking, the main theme of your thesis, etc. <\/strong><\/p>\n

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Moris Deri\u3055\u3093<\/p><\/div>\n

(Gideon)<\/span> My research involves the technical efficiency of ports, particularly Asian ports, and its relationship with economic regulation and corruption. I have taken one economic class and one political class in OSIPP so far. I am also learning Japanese through no-credit electives.<\/p>\n

(Moris)<\/span> I have taken multidisciplinary courses from international politics to development economics. My thesis is on financial crime and victimology.<\/p>\n

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Do you think that you need to use Japanese in your OSIPP life\uff1f<\/strong><\/p>\n

(Gideon) <\/span>There are a lot of international students in OSIPP and we can speak to professors in English so Japanese is not something that we have to speak. But when communicating with Japanese students, or in everyday life, if you can speak Japanese, that helps you a lot.<\/p>\n

(Moris)<\/span> In academic life, we don\u2019t need to. Some courses are held in English so they don\u2019t require us to know Japanese. But there\u2019re some courses which is only held in Japanese so you have more option if you can understand Japanese.<\/p>\n

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Since you two have experience of studying in university other than Japan, I would like to ask you the features of OSIPP or Japanese universities.<\/strong><\/p>\n

(Gideon)<\/span> Osaka University is located in a big city, such as Osaka and is quite close to the CBD. You can go pub-crawling or shopping easily so it is convenient and fun.<\/p>\n

(Moris) <\/span>It depends on the professor, but generally in Japan, I feel like professors do not actively tell us \u201cyou have to do this\u201d all the time. If we ask them for advice or any questions they will answer us in detail but otherwise they rarely give us something like assignment.<\/p>\n

(Gideon) <\/span>I think it is not strictly with the style of educating but rather the way of communicating in general. Relating with other people in my country as well as the US is more friendly and open. Here in Japan, it seems more reserved. It makes international students feel, especially during the pandemic, a bit solitary at first though.<\/p>\n

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For the last question, I\u2019d like to ask you for your plan after finishing your PhD.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0(Gideon)<\/span> I would like to either be a University Professor, work for a multinational policy firm like the OECD or the World Bank. I don\u2019t really care about which country to work at so I\u2019ll go wherever if there\u2019s an opportunity.<\/p>\n

(Moris) <\/span>Since I am D-1 now so I haven\u2019t decided yet but I am thinking of working with an NPO or returning to the bank.<\/p>\n

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This is the end of our interview! Thank you so much for today!<\/p>\n

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Gideon Ponio\u3055\u3093<\/p><\/div>\n

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(Moris) <\/span>\u79c1\u306f\u30de\u30ec\u30fc\u30b7\u30a2\u3067\u5b66\u90e8\u3092\u5352\u696d\u3057\u3001\u30a2\u30ca\u30ea\u30b9\u30c8\u3068\u3057\u3066\u5916\u8cc7\u7cfb\u91d1\u878d\u6a5f\u95a2\u306b\u52e4\u3081\u3001\u305d\u306e\u91d1\u878d\u6a5f\u95a2\u3092\u9000\u8077\u5f8c\u3001OSIPP\u306e\u535a\u58eb\u524d\u671f\u8ab2\u7a0b\u306b\u5165\u5b66\u3057\u307e\u3057\u305f\u3002<\/p>\n

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(Moris) <\/span>\u305d\u308c\u306f\u3001\u30de\u30ec\u30fc\u30b7\u30a2\u3067\u3082\u540c\u69d8\u3067\u3001\u4eca\u3084\u4fee\u58eb\u53f7\u306f\u73cd\u3057\u304f\u3042\u308a\u307e\u305b\u3093\u3002\u653f\u5e9c\u3082\u535a\u58eb\u53f7\u53d6\u5f97\u8005\u3092\u5897\u3084\u3059\u3079\u304f\u653f\u7b56\u3092\u3068\u3063\u3066\u304d\u307e\u3057\u305f\u304c\u3001\u8fd1\u5e74\u306f\u535a\u58eb\u53f7\u53d6\u5f97\u8005\u3067\u3059\u3089\u4f9b\u7d66\u904e\u591a\u3067\u3001\u8077\u306b\u5c31\u3051\u306a\u304b\u3063\u305f\u308a\u3001\u7814\u7a76\u3068\u306f\u5168\u304f\u95a2\u4fc2\u306e\u306a\u3044\u8077\u306b\u5c31\u3044\u305f\u308a\u3057\u3066\u3044\u308b\u4eba\u3082\u591a\u304f\u3044\u307e\u3059\u3002<\/p>\n

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Moris Deri\u3055\u3093<\/p><\/div>\n

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